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Author:  Suncalc [ 07 Oct 2018, 18:27 ]
Post subject:  What happened to all the Electricians?

So I have to ask a question. In all seriousness, is there, in the United States today, a significant shortage of qualified electricians? How about an inability to look up a "How To" video on YouTube?

Allow me to explain. My house is undergoing some relatively serious renovations (I'm getting a new kitchen). I purchased the home a little over a year ago. It's about 30 years old so there are some maintenance items that I've been a little slow getting to. So while my contractor was off today, I was taking the opportunity to do a little electrical work while various circuits were turned off. Little things like replacing some light switches, old plugs, and the like.

It seems every thing I look at scares me, just a little bit. Not horrible problems, but just things that are a bit off. Things like unconnected grounds, neutral side switching, missing anchor screws, too small (under capacity) wire nuts, and the like are REALLY common. As I look back, it seems that every time I help out someone with electrical work (I get asked a lot because in addition to being an Electrical Engineer, I am a fairly handy amateur electrician) I run into the same items. It's like the general attitude is, "If the light goes on, it must be ok". The very same people that would never dream of touching a gas line, seem to think that hacking at the electrical service is no big deal. Don't they realize that many more house fires and deaths are caused by faulty wiring than ever occur due to gas leaks and the like?

I'm sorry. I just needed to rant a bit. Has anyone else experienced this type of problem?

Author:  gofar99 [ 08 Oct 2018, 17:26 ]
Post subject:  Re: What happened to all the Electricians?

Hi, I have seen the same thing. Either ignorance or a don't care attitude seems all to common. I found a number of wiring issues in my house and the one my daughter got (about 30-35 years old) was horrible. Nearly every outlet, switch and much of the actual wire was not up to code. Really bad things like splicing (with wire nuts) 12 gauge wire to 14 gauge so it would fit in the contacts of switches and receptacles. You know the kind you stuff the wire into a hole in the rear of them. Quite dangerous. Lack of any grounds in some outlets, reversed polarity in others. Ugh! :firefighter:

Good listening
Bruce

Author:  mike567 [ 23 Nov 2018, 16:47 ]
Post subject:  Re: What happened to all the Electricians?

The "electrician" usually has a helper whom on the trim out will do plugs and switches while the "electrician" does the more the tech stuff (range, fancy lighting, main panel, etc.)

Author:  Toobphonic [ 28 Jul 2019, 09:43 ]
Post subject:  Re: What happened to all the Electricians?

I worked as an electrician trainee for about 2.5 years in the Washington DC area and a member of IBEW local 26 IIRC. You need to work 4 years and take a test to be a licensed electrician. There were all kinds of people working in the trade from 8th grade dropouts to college graduates, from murderers to people who go to church on Sundays. The attitude of a lot of them was that it was construction and if you knew anything that you wouldn't be working there. A lot of the work was boring and repetative. Over time you tended to get tendinitis and other problems from constant physical work. It seems that most people don't want to do this type of work. Is this the type of attitude that other people have about construction trades in other parts of the US or the world?

Author:  M. Gregg [ 17 Aug 2019, 09:51 ]
Post subject:  Re: What happened to all the Electricians?

There is a difference,

Between an "Electrician" and an electrical engineer.
The Electrician is a very broad term, is this someone who works with electricity? Or is it someone who installs wires and cables? Or is this someone who fault finds on PLC logic and control systems?

Its a bit like someone asking an Electrician to repair a TV etc.
Normally someone who hauls in heavy HV cables in factory roofs is a different guy to the one connecting it all up.
Its so varied these days and the constant changing regulations put most people off wanting to do the job.
In house wiring you need to be a jack of all trades from hammering walls and channelling cables to plastering.
If you go into the electrical trade then even fault location tends to be on shift work, who wants to do it these days?

Regards
M. Gregg

Author:  Toobphonic [ 22 Aug 2019, 17:15 ]
Post subject:  Re: What happened to all the Electricians?

Firesign Theater - Waiting for the Electrician or Someone Like Him (1968) (Complete Album)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2I2PjLna4C0 :beerchug:

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